Record Story #5: Analogija, Split đđˇ
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We met Ĺ˝are outside the store in the scorching heat of a Split June. Its entrance is covered with a Stairway to Heaven mural, the Dark Side of the Moon prism, and pictures of Queen, The Beatles, Hendrix, and Jim Morrison. While we waited for his wife Zorana to join us, we talked about the store, music, and sports betting, a few days after Croatiaâs 4-2 loss to England. Ĺ˝areâs face lit up most when the conversation turned to music. Theyâd just seen Robert Plant at an old fortress in Ĺ ibenik, overlooking the Adriatic Sea. âHe can still do it,â he said. âSome of these older guys, like Clapton, donât have it anymore. But he still does.â I begged to differ, after my own recent Eric Clapton show in KrakĂłw, and we spent a while trading concert stories. At one point, the conversation drifted briefly into politics. Ĺ˝are said that thereâs no room in his shop for the war or the old divisions, only music. I wasnât planning on dwelling on past conflicts. As Zorana joined us, we continued the conversation on the record: Can we start with your backstory, how did you end up with the store? Ĺ˝are: Thirty years ago, I had a small dream to open a vinyl store. Four years ago, that dream became a fact. I worked 43 years in a primary school as a teacher, and it was only after retiring that I finally opened it. Zorana: He says he had to open the store because it was some kind of deal between us: either open the store and bring all the records from the house into it, or get a divorce. But now I like them even more, and Iâve got my own collection at home. What are your biggest music inspirations? Ĺ˝are: Always Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Frank Zappa, and Zeppelin, of course. My favorite song is âStairway to Heaven,â from their fourth album. You mentioned you saw Robert Plant in Ĺ ibenik yesterday. Did he play âStairway to Heavenâ? Ĺ˝are: Unfortunately, no. He played maybe three or four Zeppelin songs, but mostly new material, from his new album. How about you, Zorana? Do you have similar taste? Zorana: I like a few Zeppelin songs, but my favorite is Bruce Springsteen. We saw him in Vienna, I think two or three years ago, Ĺ˝are, me, and our daughter. It was great. Were you always more into international music, or also into Yugoslav music? Ĺ˝are: Both. My taste leans more international, all the rock, blues, jazz. But if you ask me which artists sell best in the store, itâs completely equal, half ex-Yugoslav bands, half international. Zorana: Yes, but you personally lean more international, even when you were younger. But we had a few great bands in ex-Yugoslavia in the early â70s that I love. Korni Grupa, Time, September, Indexi, Bijelo Dugme, which Polish people also love. When you were younger in Yugoslavia, was it easy to get Western records? Ĺ˝are: Hereâs how it worked. We couldnât just walk into a bank and pay 10 English pounds for a record. We ordered through the UKâs Cob Records, Virgin Records, and Tandyâs Records, but if the state caught us doing that, we could get two years in prison. Sending dollars or marks out of Yugoslavia was a serious crime under the law at the time, prosecuted by the state. So we mailed 10 pounds inside postcards, and we had arrangements with a few workers at record shops and pressing plants in the UK. Thatâs how we got our vinyl. Zorana: Tell them about the Mexican music. People listened to Mexican music because it had no political weight, it was about love, simple things. Ĺ˝are: It was easier to let people listen to that than to something progressive. In â59 the Party decided that all young people in Yugoslavia should prefer Mexican music. It was a Party decision. So no Western music was pressed in Yugoslavia at all? Ĺ˝are: Very rare. But we had a few things, like A Nice Pair , first and second album of Pink Floyd, Zeppelinâs third album, and the Beatles. During the â60s there were several Beatles editions, later some Queen, some Doors, but not much. So your own taste is reflected in what the store stocks? Ĺ˝are: Yes, of course. Zorana: He also has to stock everything else, because people ask for it. When we started we had a little electronic music, maybe a little punk or house. Now he carries more electronic because people ask for it, we donât know much about it, but you have to have it. Metal, black metal too. Did you start with the store, or were you also selling at markets? Ĺ˝are: Yes, we still go to several fairs every year, especially one in Podgorica, the capital of Montenegro. Everyone from ex-Yugoslavia goes, Serbia, Novi Sad, Belgrade, Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Zagreb, Split, Croatia. Zorana: But the best fair is here in Croatia, in Imotski, about an hour from here. Every summer they run a three-day vinyl festival. We go every year, sell records in the evenings, and there are DJs playing off vinyl. Sometimes they bring in famous Croatian performers to play their own music. Great fair, great DJing. Since youâre a bit outside the old town, do you get a lot of tourists, or mostly locals? Zorana: We get tourists even though weâre away from the center, probably people find us online. Not huge numbers, but they come. Locals come too, but in summer we actually get more foreigners, maybe because locals go on vacation. Do you see a lot of younger customers in Croatia? Zorana: Yes, plenty. We get kids from maybe sixth grade, around 12 years old. They start listening because they got a turntable or some records from their grandparents, and then they come and buy. Ĺ˝are: Our youngest customer is 7, we have another whoâs 9. They pick out Iron Maiden, Guns Nâ Roses themselves, with their parentsâ permission, standing right there. You mostly stock second-hand. Are people interested in new music too? Zorana: Especially the young buyers, they want Lana Del Rey, Ariana Grande, Kanye West, Kendrick Lamar. Older customers mostly want the second-hand stuff. Do you see the new generation getting into Yugoslav records too? Ĺ˝are: Yes. We were surprised to find that some foreigners who come in already know Azra, Bijelo Dugme, and buy ex-Yugoslav records. Iâve read that the pressing quality from Yugoslavia was very good compared to elsewhere. Ĺ˝are: Yes, especially during the oil crisis, from around 1972 to 1979. We had very good vinyl quality, mostly 160 grams. Jugoton, based in Zagreb, had the best of it. It ran until Yugoslavia collapsed in 1991, and some of its pressing equipment was sold off to Czechoslovakia and, I believe, part of it to London. Can you tell us about how you source records? Ĺ˝are: I do my best with colleagues across ex-Yugoslavia, different republics, different states. Mostly Serbia and Montenegro, sometimes Bosnia and Herzegovina. Weâre a very small community, but very honest people, I call them friends. We trade, and when Iâm missing something, they try hard to find it for me. Thatâs how it works. Are records from all the ex-Yugoslav countries popular in Croatia? Ĺ˝are: Yes, but everyone knows what happened here during the war. Some people in Croatia hate certain artists just because theyâre Serbs or Muslims. Thatâs not allowed in my store. Thatâs b******t. Zorana: I donât fully agree. Personally, I wouldnât stock some Serbian records, like Riblja Äorba. Bora Äorba was a terrible guy, he said terrible things about us during the war. It was a long time ago, but itâs still fresh. Ĺ˝are: I see it differently. A few great artists, like ÄorÄe BalaĹĄeviÄ from Vojvodina and Rambo Amadeus from Montenegro, distanced themselves from the MiloĹĄeviÄ regime early on, before the war even started in the early â90s. But none of that is about the music, and I hate mixing the two. I have issues with some artists for being Chetniks or nationalists in their politics, but I try to keep music and politics separate, and I try to be fair about it. Zorana: But if they sing about those politics directly, I canât separate it. Thatâs the problem. Maybe itâs because Iâm younger, not as wise as him. Are there bands not internationally known that youâd recommend to readers? Ĺ˝are: From the golden era of Yugoslav prog rock: Leb i Sol from Macedonia, Korni Grupa from Belgrade, Time from Zagreb, September, and a few others. In the early â70s we had a handful of excellent prog rock bands, weâre very proud of them. Indexi, of course, from Sarajevo. Bijelo Dugme, from Sarajevo too. Sarajevo gave us so much, Zabranjeno PuĹĄenje as well. For my generation, BregoviÄâs the most recognized name from ex-Yugoslavia, partly because of the record he made with the Polish artist Kayah. Is he seen as more of a commercial artist here in the Balkans, or still well respected? Ĺ˝are: Like I said, it depends on taste here, and mostly people lean prog rock. Goran BregoviÄ always knew how to sell his music, and thatâs why heâs famous worldwide, but not necessarily the best. Which city is the best for record shopping today? Ĺ˝are: Belgrade. Itâs a city of maybe 2 million people, with around 20 record stores. Zagreb has maybe 8 or 9 now. In Split thereâs just us and Dancing Bear, but they mostly focus on new records, a different kind of shop, different music, different politics. If you could travel to shop for records anywhere, whatâs your favorite city? Ĺ˝are: The Netherlands, near Den Bosch, thereâs the biggest record market in Europe, maybe the world. Maybe one day. Zorana: One client from the US also told us that Nashville is amazing. Do you see the same growing interest in vinyl here as in the rest of Europe? Ĺ˝are: Yes. Vinylâs come back. In our language, âvinylâ is a feminine word, my wife pointed that out, and she beat the CD and came back from the grave for revenge, and now reigns supreme. Interest in vinyl keeps growing, prices too, and a lot of young people get infected, addicted, and start their own collections. We talked before about you liking a bit of sports betting. Howâs betting on records? Have you bought anything you thought would really go up in value? Ĺ˝are: Everyone in our little community tells me that new pressings push prices down. I think the opposite, a new edition just as often helps the value of the original first pressing hold or grow. I started with 3,000 records, and whatâs left at home now is mostly Krautrock from Germany, 1968 to 1975: Can, Amon Dßßl, over 150 records, all original first pressings. King Crimson, prog rock from the â70s, Frank Zappa, over 100 of his records altogether. Zeppelin, Beatles, Stones too. Weâve got one here, a ÄorÄe BalaĹĄeviÄ record, Marim ja... (âI Care...â), from 1991, thatâs gone up to 1,000 euros. Zorana: Heâs got the record, the CD, and the cassette of that same album, and itâs locked under key. Youâve also got some excellent hi-fi equipment here. Ĺ˝are: Iâm proud of my turntable collection, mostly from Japan, in excellent condition. Only one is belt-drive, an old Thorens TD-850. Everything else is direct-drive. I have a few contacts who source them from Japan, we upgrade them, put on a new cartridge, a new needle. Zorana: I told him, if he doesnât sell that Kenwood, or that Yamaha, we should just take it home. He writes little cards for the turntables, and for the records too, everything about them, the year, the condition, by hand. Ĺ˝are: Thatâs the one thing Iâm really proud of. Iâve seen a lot of people selling records across Europe, and I think I might be the first to handwrite notes like that. Zorana: He spent months doing that. It helps a lot, especially for someone who doesnât know much about a record, they can read the card and understand what theyâre looking at. Ĺ˝are: Every one of them has its own story. This Yamaha GT-2000L, with a special tonearm, I spent two or three years looking for it. I found a seller with two nearly identical units, one a GT-2000 and one the L version with the slightly better setup, and I ended up buying both. Long story. Can you tell us more about the community side? I saw youâve organized some events or concerts? Zorana: Not as a shop directly, no, but we cooperate with others. A few DJs run evenings at cafe bars, they invite someone to play, and we bring the records. Itâs happened a handful of times. Whenever someone asks us to cooperate, we say yes. In Split there isnât really a vinyl loversâ association like there is in Podgorica, Montenegro, where they get funding from the city. We donât have that here, unfortunately, not from the city or the state. Maybe we should push for that, get support from the city and organize more gatherings and fairs. In the future, maybe. Any future plans for the store? Zorana: My plan is to find a way into a bigger market in Split, if I can find the right partners here. Weâre also planning to start selling online, on Discogs, for example. Does checking Discogs affect what you can charge? Ĺ˝are: People compare prices there, but itâs not binding. I donât just follow Discogs, I price things on my own knowledge. If a buyer wants more records, we can always negotiate. Some records arenât just objects, they carry emotional value, and I price accordingly. Subscribe to not miss the next one! A few more pictures, an Instagram reel, and a last dig through the crates. Iâd asked Ĺ˝are to pick a handful of Yugoslav 7âs that could fit in my small backpack. He handed me a great Rani Mraz single, âRaÄunajte na nas,â and a beautiful copy of TeĹĄka Industrijaâs âUFO / Karavan,â with a silver locomotive on the inner sleeve. He refused to let me pay for any of it. Instead I walked out with a T-shirt of Splitâs own vinyl-wielding Bishop Gregory, which Iâll proudly wear around Barcelona. After two hours, Ĺ˝are mentioned, in the nicest way possible, that he was getting a bit tired of talking in English. Zorana said he feels just as tired after long calls with his American cousin. Those two hours flew by. Talking to both of them was a real window into vinyl culture in Croatia, and a little trip back in time to Yugoslavia. If you also want to go on a journey to the land of Tesla and Kusturica, Ĺ˝areâs album picks below are the best place to start. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit digginit.substack.com