# Lenval Logan on Jason Sands, meeting David Grusch & working on the UAP Task Force - Psicoactivo #348

Episodio de [Psicoactivo Podcast](https://escuchario.semeescucha.es/podcast/psicoactivo-podcast), de Pavel Ibarra Meda.

- Publicado: 19 de marzo de 2025
- Duración: 1 h 34 min
- Temporada 2, episodio 338
- Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/649f63e8/podcast/play/100066975/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-2-19%2F396840922-44100-2-603d8e9ca0b48.mp3
- Página: https://escuchario.semeescucha.es/podcast/psicoactivo-podcast/episodio/9654105-lenval-logan-on-jason-sands-meeting-david-grusch-working-on-the-uap-task-force

## Sobre este episodio

On the latest Psicoactivo, we talked to one of the actual members of the UAP Task Force, which no longer exists. Air Force veteran Lenval Logan sat down to talk to us about his work there, his interactions with people like David Grusch or Jason Sands, his Phenom app, and many more topics. Sources Timestamps: 00:00 Intro & the Air Force secrecy. 02:48 Lenval Logan goes into detail about his app. 12:28 Logan's reticence with the woo. 17:31 History of the UAP Task Force. 33:24 Classification protocols. 38:36 Island-sized USO Logan saw on a video. 41:43 Classified shapes. 50:32 Has Logan met Lacatski & Kelleher? 51:44 Going on Joe Rogan with Jason Sands. 01:01:06 UFO stigma in the military. 01:06:22 MEeting David Grusch. 01:08:23 Logan's sightings and the correlation with the Calvine UFO picture. 01:24:04 Logan's biggest hope for the future of humanity. Sources: Lenval Logan on X: https://x.com/Phenomenation Download the Phenom app: https://phenom.earth/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fphenom.earth%2F&bp-auth=1&action=bpnoaccess Psicoactivo Podcast's home at KGRA: https://kgradb.com/psicoactivo-podcast/ Subscribe to Psicoactivo's members' channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE209kqp4d9h79qBb0rQrqQ/join Watch more Psicoactivo videos right here: https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast All My links: https://allmylinks.com/pavelanche Support my work on PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/pavelanche?country.x=MX&locale.x=es_XC Support my work on Buy Me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/psicoactivo Amazon Wishlist for Mexico: https://www.amazon.com.mx/hz/wishlist/ls/2GBCLVYFE9X85?ref_=list_d_wl_lfu_nav_1 Amazon Wishlist for the U.S.: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/3T1UTVPP3P008/ref=nav_wishlist_lists_1 Follow Pavel on X: https://x.com/pavelibarrameda Follow Psicoactivo on X: https://x.com/PsicoactivoPod Listen to Psicoactivo on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/73AUp3ts4CWquykehmhkGu Video intro from Ben, follow him: https://x.com/Ancient_EQ Audio intro courtesy of Ethics, follow him @ethicsmusic on Instagram. New Outro courtesy of Vinyl Culture: https://www.thevinylculture.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@vinylculturemusic #LenvalLogan #UAPTaskForce #JayStratton #USAF #UNitedStatesAirForce #JasonSands #DaidGrusch #LueElizondo #CalvineUFO #UFOs #UFOPhenomenon #UAP #UFO #ArmsRace #NewPhysics #AncientCivilizations #ExtendedElectrodynamics #UFOPhenomenon #ThePhenomenon #Psicoactivo #PsicoactivoPodcast

Anterior: [President Donald Trump claims he will release the UNREDACTED JFK Files tomorrow - Psicoactivo #347](https://escuchario.semeescucha.es/podcast/psicoactivo-podcast/episodio/9654106-president-donald-trump-claims-he-will-release-the-unredacted-jfk-files-tomorrow)
Siguiente: [David Grusch to join the UAP Caucus as a staffer or advisor? Per Rep. Luna - Psicoactivo #349](https://escuchario.semeescucha.es/podcast/psicoactivo-podcast/episodio/9654104-david-grusch-to-join-the-uap-caucus-as-a-staffer-or-advisor-per-rep-luna-349)

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