# Nathaniel Gillis on real UFO Disclosure, Phenomena & why he isn't a Demonologist - Psicoactivo #1113

Episodio de [Psicoactivo Podcast](https://escuchario.semeescucha.es/podcast/psicoactivo-podcast), de Pavel Ibarra Meda.

- Publicado: 6 de agosto de 2026
- Duración: 1 h 25 min
- Temporada 2, episodio 1131
- Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO8343223934.mp3
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## Sobre este episodio

In a Fortean Psicoactivo, we finally got to sit down with phenomenologist Nathaniel Gillis. We discuss the deception of the phenomenon, hauntings, shadow beings, Fortean ideas, and what he considers real UFO Disclosure. But more importantly, we discuss the origins of the Demonologist label he had to deal with his entire career. Sources: Nat's website: https://parasymposia.com/ Nat's IG: https://www.instagram.com/thenathanielgillis?igsh=ZXVnb2xlb2hzNmZk&utm_source=qr Nat's X account: https://x.com/thegillisian?s=11 Steve Mera's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SteveMeraOfficial2024 Join Patreon today! https://www.patreon.com/14067262/join New sick logo created by Mr. Cole Watkins: @yeoldeking_creatives Join Psicoactivo as a member: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE209kqp4d9h79qBb0rQrqQ/join Watch more Psicoactivo videos right here: https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast All My links: https://allmylinks.com/pavelanche Support my work on PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/pavelanche?country.x=MX&locale.x=es_XC Support my work on Buy Me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/psicoactivo Amazon Wishlist for Mexico: https://www.amazon.com.mx/hz/wishlist/ls/2GBCLVYFE9X85?ref_=list_d_wl_lfu_nav_1 Amazon Wishlist for the U.S.: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/3T1UTVPP3P008/ref=nav_wishlist_lists_1 Follow Pavel on X: https://x.com/pavelibarramedaFollow Psicoactivo on X: https://x.com/PsicoactivoPod Listen to Psicoactivo on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/73AUp3ts4CWquykehmhkGu Video intro from Ben, follow him: https://x.com/Ancient_EQ Audio intro courtesy of Ethics, follow him @ethicsmusic on Instagram. New Outro courtesy of Cosmic Serpent: https://cosmicserpent.net/ ‼️FAIR USE NOTICE: This video MAY contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Psicoactivo Podcast distributes this material for the purpose of news reporting, educational research, comment and criticism, constituting Fair Use under 17 U.S.C § 107.‼️ #NathanielGillis #Demons #Angels, #Phenomena #SteveMera #CharlesFort #JohnKeel #Hauntings #Ghosts #Apparitions #Alien #UFOs #UAP #UFO #UFOCommunity #UFOTwitter #PsicoactivoPodcast #Psicoactivo #Telepathy

Anterior: [Dylan Borland: "The ICIG extremely hinted that NHIs are behind the cover-up." - Psicoactivo #1112](https://escuchario.semeescucha.es/podcast/psicoactivo-podcast/episodio/9653310-dylan-borland-the-icig-extremely-hinted-that-nhis-are-behind-the-cover-up-1112)
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